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DJ Dougal Interview

At only 19 year old, Paul Clarke is one of the countries leading breakbeat/techno DJ’s. Although he is not as instantly recognisable as maybe Fabio or Slipmatt, he’s up there with the best of the best, playing around the country and in Europe on a regular basis, guaranteeing that we will be hearing more about him as time goes on. We at Eternity had been planning to interview him for quite some time, we were surprised at some cruel comments made in a Fusion Club Review last month by Danielle and Same about Dougal’s poor quality mixing, so we arranged to give him the opportunity to give us his own version of the story, as well as finding out more about his life in the music business.

It started when he was fourteen years old at school. He was supposed to be doing a work experience placement at a clothes shop, but the day before he was due to start, it burned down. So, needing a job pretty desperately, he found one at a disco shop, through his dad, Gary. It was a stroke of luck that the people who ran the shop set up the speakers at the very first E.S.P. events.

“They asked me to go along to set up with them and it was at a time when I didn’t even know what rave was! So, I went along with a load of new speakers, absolutely breaking my back because I was only young. Seeing people all going mad with a 5k sound system and a strobe made me think that I just had to get into it all. I just did non-stop paper rounds, working in newsagents, even on Saturdays until I’d earned enough money to buy decks. So, I got all the equipment together, went on holiday and came back only to find everything I’d saved up for had been stolen. Eventually, after another year, I got it all together again and just practised as much as I could. When I was 15 I managed to start my own mobile disco, with a partner on the microphone and I was mixing together all old 60’s stuff that I’d got off my dad. I was even playing a few commercial rave tracks like Black Box and Technotronic, but I still had all my house music on the side because by this time I’d got into house music in a big way. There was a shop near us called Junior 4 that got me doing small garage events, where I would be playing upstairs in a small room, while the top DJ’s would play downstairs.

One night Craig Campbell from E.S.P., who now does Taste, saw me playing all my house stuff and asked me to play at one of his events in an early slot. I asked him when and he replied, “Tomorrow”. I was shaking so much while I was playing my first set for him, nearly in tears because I thought they would never have me back. Craig came up to me at the end of my set and said that everyone loved it, inviting me back”.

So that’s how Dougal got into it all. He couldn’t understand how they could have liked his first set though, because there was no proper monitor speaker for him to mix from. In those days people didn’t really know what a monitor speaker was and the sound system at the event was about half a mile away!

The second E.S.P. event he played for was the big one for Dougal. For the first time he played in front of 4,000 people, barely able to see over the decks and playing with DJ’s much older than him. He managed to impress, because from this moment onwards he started to play regular for E.S.P. The rest is, as they say, History!

“I never really pushed myself and sent out tapes to organisers or anything like that, the one time I did do it I didn’t get any response, it sort of blew my confidence and I thought I’d just stay where I was, playing for E.S.P. All of sudden everything just went mad”.

He had his own rave at 16 years old, a picture appeared in the local newspaper. Unfortunately the police stopped it, by informing the council that it was a rave but as least it was experience for him.

Three years on and Dougal has practically made it, the reason why it has worked so well for him is because E.S.P./Dreamscape have built up such a huge following. They always try to put on excellent events, not just sticking to one thing but mixing different styles of music together like techno, jungle and happy breakbeat. This works well for Dougal, who likes to play a mixture of techno and happy breakbeat and Techno.

“Many people think that I just play happy, but I actually try to always sneak a couple of techno tracks in there. They don’t really notice because I’ll be playing a stompy happy tune while mixing in a techno track which both sound quite similar, and they all think it’s the same. I’ll even stick a couple of jungle tracks in there occasionally, because some are absolutely brilliant. I think you’ve just got to break it up and not play the same thing all the time. My style is mainly happy and stompy which keeps things going. I played at Crystal Palace last week and they loved the happy, the techno and the jungle. I thought this was excellent because you could play anything and the crowd would love it”.

But crowds everywhere seem to like Dougal, no matter what he plays. He plays abroad in Europe a lot now, and I was surprised that he could play basically the same stuff over there as he does here, bearing in mind that breakbeat has not fully caught on yet.

“When I play at Zurich in Switzerland, it’s really techno that they are used to, but they will definitely come through to the happy bouncy stuff. I have to keep it stompy over there though, if it hasn’t got the kick beat then they wont like it. But if it has, they’ll go for anything I want to play. When I played them some real strong breakbeat tunes, they were all cheering and going mad. I play with a promotional company called White Dove in Zurich and it’s quite a regular thing now. When me and Clarkee first went out there we only attracted 400 people. Now, 6,000 people turn up every time”.

However, as mentioned earlier, two people aren’t as keen on Dougal, Danielle and Sam, two girls who wrote the Fusion article last month. We had heard the comments made in this article like, “He should stick to making records” and “He really needs to learn how to mix properly”, really upset Dougal. Wouldn’t it upset you if you were a DJ? Personally I can’t see the point in making such snide remarks, because if they knew what conditions a DJ has to play under at an event, they wouldn’t have said all this. Anyway, we thought that this would be the perfect opportunity for Dougal to set the record straight.

“The article got to me so much, especially with the rave scene being such a happy place and all that. You don’t want any bad vibes, so if someone doesn’t like what a DJ does then I just wish they’d keep it to themselves or say that he wasn’t up to his usual standard. Saying I should give up DJ-ing and stick to making records was a bit below the belt. I’ve got feelings too and if they would have realised how much it upset me, then I don’t think they would have said it”.

His mixing apparently wasn’t that bad on the night, he did have to change the needles half way through because the records were jumping about, but that wasn’t his fault and because of this it was proving very difficult to get the beat on the record.

If a DJ can’t get the best on a record he/she may as well forget it, pack their bags and leave. But Dougal stayed and tried his best, even Vinyl Groover, and Druid said that they didn’t understand what Danielle and Sam were carrying on about.

It’s a shame people don’t really understand a DJ’s position (unless of course you’ve tried it). When a DJ plays two or three venues a night, it can get a bit difficult with problems round every corner. After all, the DJ is only human! Dougal told us about another problem a lot of DJ’s experience.

“I’ve got a lot of dub plates and they are very hard to play. They jump and everything. When I play at Dreamscape, god knows what’s going on because the needles just skate across the record!”

Dub plates are what all the top breakbeat and jungle DJ’s use. They cost around £30 each to make, wearing out after a little while and jumping every five minutes. But nevertheless, they are very useful and when Dougal goes to get some cut in London, he’ll meet up with people like Sy, Slipmatt and Swan-E, and they’ll all go and get them cut together.

“All the DJ’s in the scene are so friendly, that’s what I love about it. Everyone knows everyone and there’s no bad vibes. Take for example the darkest jungle DJ you’ve ever meet, DJ Hype. He’s so friendly and dead funny. In fact being a DJ is just like being part of a big family”.

The only thing that Dougal doesn’t like about the scene is the fact that three years aso, you wouldn’t go to see a jungle set or a techno set, you’d go to see a bit of everything. Take for example, DJ Sasha, who three years ago played all styles of music whether it be hardcore, techno or house. Dougal tries to be like this as much as he can, bringing the old vibe back to the club scen

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